When is a Transgresion not a Sin???

Every time that I think I am getting a handle on LDS theology I find out something new.  I have always understood that Mormons have a different view of the fall of man and the results of that fall on the descendants of Adam.

There is a discussion ongoing at one of the post on Mormon Coffee concerning the fall.  The LDS commenter made the claim that he didn’t believe that Adam sinned by eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.  This came as a total surprise to me.  Another reason that I am not qualified to tell Mormons what they believe.  Thinking about Paul’s explanations concerning the fall of man in Romans 5 I am not sure how this can add up.

When I looked this up on the LDS website, low and behold, Adam did not sin he transgressed (Romans 5:14(KJV)).  One of the quotes I found said,”I never speak of the part Eve took in this fall as a sin, nor do I accuse Adam of a sin. … This was a transgression of the law, but not a sin … for it was something that Adam and Eve had to do!“  The LDS belief is that if Adam had not eaten the forbidden fruit he would not have been able to fulfill the commandment in Genesis 1:28 to be fruitful and multiply.  The belief that Adam and Eve were unable to fulfill the Genesis 1:28 commands comes totally from modern LDS revelation as far as I can make out, at least I have not seen any explanations except from their standard works.

I thought it would be interesting to look at Romans 5:14 and a couple of other passages to see if there is a distinction made in Paul’s writing between a “transgression” of a command given by God and a “sin”.  Starting with the NET Bible for Romans 5:14 we can see that the word in question in Greek is “parabasis” (Strong’s 3847).  In this passage it is variously defined in other translations a “transgression”, “breaking a command”, “likeness of the offense”, “disobey an explicit commandment” etc.  This word is used by Paul 7 times and is translated as “transgression” or “breaking” in these passages, Ro 2:23; 4:15; 5:14; Gal 3:19; 1Ti 2:14; Heb 2:2; 9:15 in the AV.  The DBL defines “parabasis” as a breaking, violation.

Of importance in looking at this passage is that Paul is referencing Hosea 6:7 where the prophet is comparing Adam’s breaking a covenant with God to that of national Israel breaking the covenant.

But like Adam they transgressed the covenant;
there they dealt faithlessly with me.
Gilead is a city of evildoers,
tracked with blood.
As robbers lie in wait for a man,
so the priests band together;
they murder on the way to Shechem;
they commit villainy.

(Hosea 6:7-9)

Another problem that I see with the “Adam didn’t sin” theory is that it is ignores and conflicts with Paul’s teaching on the subject.  If Adam did not sin then who is Paul talking about in Romans 5:12?  Whose are the “one man’s sin” in Romans 5:16 or the trespass in 5:17?

Joseph Smith’s thinking about the fall of Adam does ably answer the question, “If God created man “very good” how did sin get introduced into the world?”  This might also explain why you do not see an infralapsarian or superlapsarian divide in the LDS Church.

The problem with this solution to an age old question is that it creates more problems than it solves.  If you follow Smith, God created mankind with a flaw, they were unable to procreate.  This would be a direct conflict with Genesis 1:31 where God declares everything that he created was “very good”.  Following Smiths instructions on the fall, Adam and Eve could not have been created “very good”, because they were created incomplete and incapable of completing the command of God.  Then, according to Smith, God provides a way out of this galactic pickle of his own creation.  All Adam has to do is violate the Genesis 2:17 command not to eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.  According to Smith it would have been a violation of Genesis 1:28 for Adam not to eat the forbidden fruit.  In this Adam finds himself in a catch 22, he cannot win for loosing.

~ by gundek on March 27, 2009.

12 Responses to “When is a Transgresion not a Sin???”

  1. As a poster that helped to flush out this “Adam didn’t sin” notion, I would like to state there is alot of theology that is going on with this idea. I believe the 2nd article of faith and the philosophical pre-suppostions behind it explain the LDS stance on this subject. If Adam “sinned” in the garden then on some level so did we. This is Paul’s argument in Roman’s 5 and throughout the whole book. Mormons are very Pelagian in that they deny original sin; this would help to explain why the JST alters Romans 4.

    The catch 22 you mentioned is a problem but not so much for Mormons. Progression trumps all so God pitting the first two commandments against each other is more like a test that Adam past. This is what really spawned the whole thread in that I was commenting on how a fictional character on Big Love (Barb) could sin and how in some respect it would not be that bad or inconsistent (according to LDS theology). Adam chose the greater good to follow Eve in her “transgression”.

    It is sometimes hard to pin Mormons down on their view of the fall as some of their theology is formed by the temple videos/reenactments. Adam followed Eve in her transgression so as to stay together with her and procreate. I was about midway through the thread when I stumbled on a website that discussed LDS Temple practices. The LDS poster kept mentioning that Adam “did what he had to do” and I connected the dots after that.

    • David,

      Thank you for the comments. I have trouble understanding the distinctions between sin and transgression. It seems like trying to understand what the meaning of “is” is.

      I am trying to come to grips with the systematic implications of this. From my perspective “Sin is any want of conformity unto, or transgression of, the law of God” (WSC 14). I think you a correct in your thought that if there is a difference between sin and transgression for Adam then there would be for his descendants as well.

  2. It doesn’t help that most Mormon theological writing in the past doesn’t really rise beyond the amateur level. Joseph Feilding Smith (the author of that quote) had a good grasp of scripture and certainly read widely, but like most LDS authorities, he was not philosophically/theologically careful in his religious terminology.

    We have also developed our theology (with exceptions) largely in isolation of the rest of the Christian world. This makes nitpicky theological discussions over the meaning of the word “sin” or “transgression” difficult in a Mormon context.

    • Seth,

      Your reply is another reason that I often have to ask a lot of back ground questions in order to see where some LDS doctrine comes from. It is not just the LDS, terminology changes, denominations define common terms differently and these differences can cause misunderstandings. I am not saying this to minimise the absolute differences that both of us will, I am sure, acknowledge exist. These differences can have us talking past each other even if we are not saying the same thing.

      I see this not just with the LDS, sometimes we become so wedded to our terminology we almost make it canonical.

  3. As I understand it “all sin is transgression”, however all “transgression” is not “sin”.

    In other words, sin is a subset of transgression. It is possible to transgress without sinning, but it is not possible to sin without transgressing.

    So what is the difference?

    I think the difference is knowledge of good and evil.

    Prior to partaking of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, neither Adam nor Eve could KNOW the goodness or the evilness of their actions. They were innocent/naive.

    Sin is the difference between what we know and how we act.

    Transgression is any violation of God’s commands regardless of what we know.

    • GB,

      How do you deal with Romans 1:18-3:20 in general and the sections that single out the Gentiles in particular like Romans 1:18-32?

  4. Why do you say that Rom 1:18-32 is particular to Gentiles?

    How do you define “Gentile”?

    • GB,

      “Single out” is probably a bad choice of words on my part, Romans 1:22, 23 and the reference to idolatry shows that Paul is referring to Gentiles in this section. Basically Paul is saying that they have rejected God and in there own foolishness constructed idols to replace him. For this God has abandoned them to their passions and sins.

      We see a transition in chapter 2 first talking about Jews and gentiles together and away from the Gentiles in chapter 2:17 to where Paul is referring to the Jews and their possession of the law.

      My point is that even without the “law” the gentiles in Romans are being held accountable for their actions (Romans 2:12-16).

      With this said I think that Romans 1:18-3:20 is Paul’s most complete explanation of sin, the results of sin, and our abilities with regard to sin.

  5. I think that vs. 18 makes it clear that Paul is talking about the wicked whether Jew or Gentile. (The Jews had at times been guilty of idolatry).

    The rest of the chapter bares this out.

    “My point is that even without the “law” OF MOSES the gentiles in Romans are being held accountable for their actions.”

    There, fixed it for you. Now I can agree with it totally. :-)

    • GB,

      I am not opposed to your edit in the context that Paul is talking about. I could agree with OT law, law delivered to Moses or law of God as well.

      I think that Romans 1:18-22 possibly 18-25 forms a single paragraph explaining why the Gentiles “can” be held accountable for their sins, despite not having the law. “…they are without excuse…” because God has shown them”…His invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world…”

      The Jews on the other hand not only have God revealed in his creation they also have the law.

  6. I think that Romans 1:18-22 possibly 18-25 explains why the WICKED “can” be held accountable for their sins. “…they are without excuse…” because God has shown them”…His invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world…”.

    There, fixed it for you. Now I can agree with it totally. :-)

    • GB,

      Once again I can agree with you, considering what Paul says in Romans 3:9-20, “For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin, as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God.”

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